Carl Icahn thinks that the high yield market is in a massive bubble. Meaning, if the high yield market implodes, so will the stock market. Just like in 2007-2009. Do you want to bet against Carl? Be my guest….
Carl Icahn Confirms Our View. And It Is So Disturbing You Won’t Be Able To Sleep Over The Weekend
In his brief interview with CNBC (see video below), Carl Icahn confirmed what we have been saying on this blog for quite some time. First, everyone loves this market (even his barber) a little too much and that in itself should raise some red flags. Second, most earnings you see today have been artificially driven by cheap credit infused by the FED. That’s exactly what we have been saying here for a long time. Today’s earnings are a mass delusion at best. As we have said before, if you take credit driven earnings out, the true market P/E should be around 60-80, making this market not only expensive, but “Are You F#&$ing Kidding Me?” expensive. You will see the P/E ratio surge (as they did in 2008) once the markets crater and the US Economy falls into a severe recession later this year.
Finally, Mr. Icahn insinuated that there will be a major correction over the next 3 years, but he doesn’t know exactly when. While he doesn’t, we certainly do. And not only to the year or to the month, but to the day. That’s right, our mathematical and timing work shows us exactly when (to the day) the bull market will top out and the subsequent bear market composition (bear market of 2014-2017). If you would like to gain access to such information, please Click Here.
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Carl Icahn Is Going After Ebay. Should You Buy
Carl Icahn is at it again. His latest fight is against E-Bay and it’s getting dirty fast. In a nutshell, Icahn claims that E-Bay has been mismanaged by current management/board. Further, he is demanding the spin off of PayPal as a separate publicly traded company. Doing so would release substantial value or so the thinking goes.
Should you follow in Carl Icahn’s footsteps and invest in E-bay in anticipation of a spin off?
Maybe. Icahn has a very good track record when it comes to such fights, shareholder activism and releasing value. While this process can be highly volatile, unpredictable and lengthy the chances are good some sort of a value will be released. If there is a PayPal spin off, I would expect that value to be significant. Just recently Ebay’s stock price broke an important level indicating further upside and consideration for possible investment.
Either way, you should always do your own research and make your own investment decisions.
Please see the letter from Carl Icahn on merits of the fight below.
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Carl Icahn Is Going After Ebay. Should You Buy Google
Carl Icahn is a prominent activist investor and the chairman of Icahn Enterprises L.P. This letter originally appeared on his website Shareholders Squaretable. You can follow Mr. Icahn on Twitter here > @Carl_C_Icahn
New York, New York, March 6, 2014 – Today Carl C. Icahn released the following open letter to stockholders of eBay Inc.:
We are strongly encouraged by the results published yesterday of an investor survey conducted by Bernstein Research regarding our campaign to prove to eBay’s board of directors that stockholders are in favor of separating PayPal from the company. A majority of eBay owners responding to the survey said they believe that the composition of the board should change. 55% of the survey respondents said that the composition of eBay’s board should change, while 43% said that splitting PayPal from eBay is the right move to make. We are therefore naturally skeptical of recent articles reporting eBay CEO John Donahoe’s claims of widespread stockholder support for keeping the companies together.
While I find the Bernstein data points astounding in light of the fact that we have not yet even begun to formally reach out to our fellow eBay stockholders to make our case, I cannot say that I am particularly surprised at the level of apparent stockholder dissatisfaction with this board – especially in light of (among other things) –
- what we believe was an epic blunder in which the board allowed an investor group which included director Marc Andreessen’s venture capital firm to capture the lion’s share of the enormous upside from Microsoft’s acquisition of Skype at the expense of eBay’s stockholders;
- the fact that during Mr. Andreessen’s time on the eBay Board he has made investments in and actively advised, no less than five direct competitors of eBay (four of which are competitors of PayPal), including Boku (mobile payments platform), Coinbase (Bitcoin wallet), Dwolla (secure online money management), Jumio (online and mobile credit card payments) and Fab (design e-commerce); and
- the fact that Board member Scott Cook, the founder of Intuit (which competes with PayPal) allegedly asked eBay not to recruit any Intuit employees, according to an ongoing Department of Justice investigation.
I am also not surprised that our spinoff proposal already seems from this survey to have so much support despite the fact that we have not yet even made public our full business rationale for the separation. What I see as some of the obvious potential benefits of a spinoff –
- a spinoff of PayPal could eliminate the conglomerate discount that we believe the market has afforded eBay;
- a spinoff could allow two separate management teams to focus more closely on the core businesses and make better strategic decisions regarding the long-term health of their respective companies;
- an independent PayPal could provide an even more valuable currency for bolt-on acquisitions as PayPal strives to remain the market leader in mobile payments;
- a spinoff of PayPal could provide a more compelling currency to attract top talent to the respective companies; and
- separately, PayPal may be more able to facilitate strategic partnerships with companies that may now be reluctant to do so due to competitive concerns with eBay –
seem already to be apparent to many, many other eBay stockholders. Again, we are encouraged.
We are looking forward to the upcoming annual meeting, where stockholders will have an opportunity to vote on our precatory proposal and send a message to the board that PayPal should be separated from eBay NOW. Stockholders will also at that time have the power to vote out of office two members of eBay’s board of directors and replace them with our nominees, who we believe will be focused more on enhancing value for ALL eBay stockholders than on leveraging their relationships with eBay to benefit their outside personal investments.
Stockholders, please stay tuned. There is more to come – much more. Thank you for your continued support.
Sincerely,
Carl C. Icahn