Are Stock Valuation Higher Than 2000 and 2007 Tops? You Bet Your Sweet Ass They Are!!!

Well, kind of. The chart below is a very simple, yet a power look at today’s valuation levels. It shows that while we have already surpassed 2007 valuation levels, we are still a few clicks away from the 2000 levels. At the same time this is not the main issue here.

It is important to understand where we came from, what we are comparing and why it is incredibly important for your overall portfolio. The late 90’s and subsequent top in January of 2000 were caused by the tech bubble. We all know that. As a result of its collapse, the FED’s had opened the flood gates of credit to stabilize the economy and to avert a deep recession. That money flowed directly to real estate, mortgage finance and the stock market….creating a powder keg that exploded in 2007-09. 

The FED’s, once again, raced to the rescue, scared to death, trying to avoid the next “Great Depression”. This time around, not only did they flood the market with cheap credit, but they went as far as creating money out of thin air and monetizing the debt to the tune of $3 Trillion over the last 3 years alone. The money, once again, flowed into the stock market, and to a lesser degree real estate, creating overvaluations and speculation in every sector of the economy. 

So, let me ask you. Is it different this time? Can a collapse/recession be avoided? Are these valuation at an appropriate level or is the stock market incredibly overpriced? 

I think you know what my answer will be. It’s clear (as per chart below) that the market is above 2007 levels. What that chart does not show is that today’s values, as opposed to values in 2000, are driven by credit. Meaning, in real terms, today’s market is likely to be a lot more expensive than it was at  the high of the tech bubble. 

Dr. Marc Faber clearly agrees in the article below. As always, his analysis is right on the money. I highly encourage you to read it. 

Finally, I have clearly stated a number of times on this blog and as per my mathematical/timing work, the bull market from the March of 2009 bottom has topped out on December 31st, 2013. Further, this same mathematical work indicates that the market is set for a bear market leg that will last into 2017. As such, it would be prudent to educate yourself on the matters above while protecting your overall portfolio and wealth. 

I wish you luck. 

Chart Courtesy Of dshort.com

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Dr. Doom: Tech stocks even more overvalued now than in 2000

With stocks worldwide off to a bad start in 2014, one man isn’t surprised by any of this.

Dr. Marc Faber, editor and publisher of the Gloom, Boom, and Doom Report, thinks the drop in the markets, particularly with US stocks, were nothing compared to what they could – or should – have done.

While turmoil in emerging markets is often cited as the culprit for stocks’ decline, others are pointing the finger at the Federal Reserve Bank for tapering its monetary stimulus. Faber believes the fall in equities is the fault of the Fed, but not because of tapering.

“It’s easy to blame someone else for ones problems,” says Faber. “Emerging markets central bankers are blaming now the Fed for the tapering… The Fed has brought about problem in emerging economies. But, it’s not the tapering. It’s the previous bubble they created because investors were chasing yield. They bought emerging market stocks, emerging market currencies, and bonds. They pushed up these asset prices to relatively high levels.”

Though the correction in stocks caught some off guard, Faber says he wasn’t surprised by anything other than people’s reaction.

“The market in the US, the S&P went from 666 in March 2009 – almost five years ago – to 1,850,” says Faber. “Now the market dropped 7% and it seems that it’s the end of the world. This is ridiculous.”

“Compared to the previous increase in prices,” says Faber, “the market retreat of 7% is nothing, nothing at all!

Where Faber sees a bubble is in the tech sector, particularly with social media stocks. He was short Twitter, which until Wednesday was up 45% from its IPO closing price of $44.90. He says he covered his short as shares dropped to $50 per share Thursday. However, he is generally not hopeful for the sector.

“Social media stocks are more overpriced than the internet shares were in year 2000,” says Faber.

Besides Twitter’s staggering 24% drop on Thursday, Pandora was down 10% and LinkedIn took a 7% hit in afterhours trading before Friday morning’s opening bell.

Faber warns investors hoping to make easy money by shorting social media stocks that they may get hurt. Yet he doesn’t buying them to make a quick buck is a good idea, either. In other words, investors should just stay away from social media stocks.

“In year 2000, between January and March, [internet stocks] still went up 30%…. And then, it collapsed,” says Faber. “I’m not saying that individual investors should short these stocks because they may get burned. But, by and large, the fact that they still go up doesn’t make them good value from a long-term perspective.”

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Stock Valuation Higher Than 2000 and 2007 Tops? You Bet Your Ass They Are!!! Google

Why Does Goldman Sachs Hates Your Money?

 

CNBC Writes: ‘No bubble troubles’ in stock market, declares Goldman Sachs

 

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Goldman Sachs thinks talk of financial bubbles is misguided, and the firm is encouraging its wealthy clients to keep their money in relatively expensive sectors such as U.S. technology stocks and high-yield bonds.

“Stay fully invested—we don’t have bubble troubles yet,” Sharmin Mossavar-Rahmani, chief investment officer for the bank’s investment strategy group, said at a press briefing in New York last week.

The firm likes several relatively pricey sectors. One is U.S. technology stocks, based on strong corporate free cash flows and prospects for corporate earnings growth. The Dow Jones U.S. Technology Index has gained about 141 percent over the past five years. 

Maybe Goldman Sachs clients are too rich for their own good and are in need of a good haircut. That is exactly what they are going to get if they listed to Sharmin Mossavar-Rahmani. Instead of being risk averse she wants them to pile into highly speculative Tech stocks? You can’t make this stuff up.

The article continues,  “But she reiterated the four reasons Goldman believes equities are not in bubble territory, as outlined in a recent strategy report: Credit growth is not excessive; investors are just beginning to get back into U.S. stocks; views on the U.S. are not yet overly bullish; and stock valuations have not raced too far ahead”.

Let’s take a look at each point individually.

1. Credit Growth Is Not Excessive.  Are you kidding me? Total market debt as a % of GDP stands at 370%.  The highest in the history of mankind. As a reference point, 1929 this same indicator was at just 280% of GDP. We all know what happened thereafter. Plus, the FED is printing/monetizing $85 Billion per month to add liquidity to the market. There are credit bubbles everywhere (mortgage, student loans, credit cards, even car loans) and Goldman Sachs has the balls to claim that credit growth is not excessive? Unbelievable. 

2. Investors are just beginning to get back into US stocks: I am not sure what “investors” she is talking about, but the market is up over 150% in 5 years. If they are getting back in “just now” they are dumb and this should be used as a contrary indicator.   

3. Views on the US are not yet overly bullish: Once again, views by whom? If you take a look at the bullish sentiment indicator, it is sitting close to an all time high. That is above 2000 and 2007 levels. Plus, everyone (media, financial advisors, investors, etc…) are falling all over each other while predicting the market to go up in 2014. As far as I am concerned you can’t get more bullish than this.

4. Stock Valuations have not raced too far ahead: “Too Far” is the keyword. In a sense, Sharmin is admitting that valuations are indeed high. While this point is debatable based on your valuation metrics, personally, this market is incredibly expensive. At today’s prices I cannot find too many things (if anything) to invest in. 

The bottom line is as follows. The arguments Goldman Sachs makes are nonsense and without merit. Investors must clearly understand that before making their investment decisions. As I have said so many times before, my timing/mathematical work indicates a contrary position. The bear market is about to start and it will wreck havoc on the financial markets over the next 3 years. AKA….its time to protect yourself instead of buying up tech stocks.  

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How To Determine The Intrinsic Value Of Any Company (Part 5)

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As you can see the calculation itself is fairly simple and straight forward. What is not easy when it comes to doing Intrinsic Value calculation is doing the fundamental research and figuring out which inputs to use.  A slight deviation in any of the variables above can have a huge impact on your overall Intrinsic Value calculation and your subsequent valuation estimate.   

For example, are you 100% confident in your management team analysis? Are you sure they will be able to turn the company around? Is your estimate of $0.50 EPS in 2015 and a growth rate of 11% thereafter really valid or is it full of holes?  Are you sure the company turns around and what about the competition?

These are the real variables and the real questions that determine the Intrinsic Value. Yet, none of them can be known with 100% certainty. They can be very well researched and you can make very accurate estimates, but they are not exact. In many cases these are guesses at best.  That is the point I want to drive home. You will NEVER have an exact Intrinsic Value, it will always be an estimate.

That is why Margin Of Safety plays such an important role. Let’s say you have worked very hard on determining RadioShacks Intrinsic Value at $10.72. With today’s stock price of $3.75, it gives you a 70% Margin of Safety. That is exactly what you are looking for. This type of a large margin of safety will protect you on the downside should your analysis fail to deliver.

If the management team has failed, if the growth rate or the P/E ratio don’t materialize the chances of this stock going much lower is small. Why? Because it is already selling at 70% discount from what a reasonable fundamental research and valuation work indicate. Should you make a mistake your losses will be limited. Yet, should the company surprise to the upside your return will be significantly higher. A low risk and high return setup.

Can the stock still go to zero? Absolutely. The company can still fail and file for bankruptcy, but if you have done your work right and continue to follow the company on the daily basis you should be well aware of that long before it happens. That is what value investing is all about. Finding these undervalued gems, doing a lot of fundamental research, valuing companies and trying to identify investment opportunities that sell well below their intrinsic value. That in return provides you with a low risk and a high return type of a setup.

Chapter Summary:   If you take anything away from this section of the book, take away the fact that no Intrinsic Value calculation can be exact. Even complex models used by investment banks and Quants yield best guess estimates.  There are just too many unknown variables that depend on future events that comprise the calculation.  

That is why you will be very well served by doing your own fundamental research and concentrating on stocks that provide your with the biggest margin of safety and plenty of upside.  

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